teaching though net meeting...thoughts????

Wayne Brown · Post by **Wayne Brown** » 16 Jul 2002 7:13 pm

what are your thoughts on teaching through net meeting with a camera and a mic.

thanks
wayne

Andy Greatrix · Post by **Andy Greatrix** » 16 Jul 2002 7:55 pm

why not? if it doesn't work, you will find out soon enough. It's worth a shot.

Everett Cox · Post by **Everett Cox** » 16 Jul 2002 8:28 pm

Yes, there seems to be many, many forunites with much to offer. Somone a while back had suggested PalTalk. Although (I believe) it would only provide audio and keyboard (typed) messages, it would also be an option. There's one 'Aussie' channel/chatroom that I thought was particularly good. They had a surprising amount of music in the style we old timers remember and enjoy.

There might be two problems, though, that would have to be overcome - scheduling and bandwidth. Scheduling to find a time that would be acceptable for people in the various time zones. (Or, if it weren't done 'live', substitute the problem of a huge amount of server space to host video/audio recorded presentations.) Bandwidth would severely limit the quality for those of us with dial-up connections. Surely would be nice, though. --Everett

Jim Palenscar · Post by **Jim Palenscar** » 16 Jul 2002 9:02 pm

I've looked into it fairly extensively and found that it really is a bit early in the development of the programs that attempt to propagate the proper bandwidth for this application. I've looked into Netmeeting, PalTalk, CuSeeMe, etc. and, once you've got your end together- then there is the additional hassle of getting the recipient's setup and yours to jive right- really making almost it not worth the effort. It will come but it seems to me that it's a bit off yet- IMHO.

Wayne Brown · Post by **Wayne Brown** » 17 Jul 2002 3:03 am

hey guys i was thinking in real time...not recorded...i know it would be slow on some of the conections...but voice wouldn't be slow... and you could see what i'm doing really slow...hmmm... mabe the conection wouldn't be bad after all ...you could see it slow

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Bob Hoffnar · Post by **Bob Hoffnar** » 17 Jul 2002 5:19 am

Wayne,
If you are interested taking your idea past the talking about it in a chat room phase you might want to contact Joe Wright. He is a great guy and knows his way around all that stuff.

Bob

Wayne Brown · Post by **Wayne Brown** » 17 Jul 2002 5:24 am

thanks but i'm already set up for it...i can teach anytime online as i can use my recording studio
thanks
wayne

Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 17 Jul 2002 9:22 am

I use NetMeeting at work, but both sides have monster bandwidth. I'm not sure it would work all that well through a modem.

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Mark Herrick · Post by **Mark Herrick** » 17 Jul 2002 1:52 pm

To do anything near real-time video of any decent resolution you'll need some hefty video encoding/decoding hardware and a lot of bandwidth.

I recently worked for a company that provided, among other things, video teleconferencing services for the motion picture industry. We were encoding MPEG video at 2.5 Mbps and transmitting over satellite link via TCP/IP. The sat links were 9 Mbps.

The high resolution was necessary so directors and editors could play back rough cuts of the film and discuss changes, etc.

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 17 Jul 2002 4:08 pm

I suppose that if you're not within a few hundred miles of another steelplayer or teacher...it might be worth it. There is, however, no substitute for in-person lessons. Even though some of the newer teaching videos have split screens and varying camera angles, it's still not the same as being able to concentrate your focus exactly where you need it. All methods of teaching (tapes, video, tab, and books) are helpful, but don't rely on them unless there is nothing else available. Nothing beats "live" music, whether you're listening or learning.

I urge all steelers to get out when they can, to see and interface with other players in person!