Band in a Box Out of Tune?

Ron Sodos · Post by **Ron Sodos** » 19 Dec 2006 6:54 pm

I put Band in a Box on my old IBM laptop and it is playing about E at about 435 on my tuner. I was hoping to use it for some simple recording but ??? Has anybody encountered this at all? I don't see anywhere in the software to control the pitch. It is digital right it shouldn't be off pitch at all? I don't get it?....

Steve English · Post by **Steve English** » 19 Dec 2006 7:09 pm

On the top row of options there is one named "GM". There is a way to fine tune the pitch under that option that might fix you up.

Stu Schulman · Post by **Stu Schulman** » 19 Dec 2006 7:09 pm

Ron:Is there anything in the help section about Midi global parameters?you should look for fine tuning,and not pitch transpose.[This message was edited by Stu Schulman on 19 December 2006 at 07:11 PM.]

Steve English · Post by **Steve English** » 19 Dec 2006 7:31 pm

The one I mentioned might just be for external sound devices....

Andy Sandoval · Post by **Andy Sandoval** » 19 Dec 2006 7:46 pm

I found "master tuning" under the GM menu item. hope that works.

Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 20 Dec 2006 2:59 am

I've seen other posts, on a computer forum, about MIDI being out of tune. If you are using the old MS GS Wavetable or MS software synth that may be the problem. Try the Roland VSC that comes with BIAB and see if that one is better.

Ron Sodos · Post by **Ron Sodos** » 20 Dec 2006 7:22 am

I tried to configure GM to master tuning and it said my sound card (laptop) didn't support it. So I am not sure what to do. I guess i could retune my steel to BIAB but that sure sounds like a crazy way to resolve this. I may just get a different PC to play the BIAB tracks. By the, way Hi Steve E. Hows it goin? Still enjoying the amp? Say Hi to Jason for me...

[This message was edited by Ron Sodos on 20 December 2006 at 07:24 AM.]

Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 21 Dec 2006 3:02 am

Apparently you didn't try the Roland VSC as suggested. Try that and see if it is more in tune.

John Daugherty · Post by **John Daugherty** » 21 Dec 2006 3:40 am

Ron, are you sure that your tuner is on pitch?
RE: Jack's suggestion to use Roland "Visual Sound Canvas" (VSC), I have been using VSC for quite some time and I like it. Sounds good, haven't noticed any tuning problems.
When using GMI I haven't noticed any problems either.

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Robert Leaman · Post by **Robert Leaman** » 21 Dec 2006 10:19 am

BIAB uses the computer clock as does your sound card. If the computer clock is not accurate, as most computer clocks, the sounds produced by your sound card will be off. Finally, as I've said before, BIAB DOES NOT PRODUCE SOUNDS. BIAB tells the sound card what to produce and that includes MIDI events.

Ron Sodos · Post by **Ron Sodos** » 22 Dec 2006 2:58 pm

I tried Roland and no sound at all came out of my laptop. It is an IBM Thinkpad which is notorious for problems with drivers that are not IBM proprietary drivers. I switched it back and i get sound now. Yes my tuner is perfect. I tried it with an old Korg tuner and then I tried it against my almost new rackmounted Korg DTR2000. BIAB is definitely putting E at 435. That is way flat. Time for a new PC for BIAB.

Ron Sodos · Post by **Ron Sodos** » 28 Dec 2006 8:54 am

Well I put BIAB on a different PC and E is at 440. So there must be something wrong with the laptop. Either that or BIAB needs a newer PC for compatibility. THe laptop was rather old (a P1 I think) and the desktop I put it on is a P3. Anyway it works and i am happy now.....