start up blues
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Pat Kelly
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start up blues
I'm running windows XP. My windows start up is fairly slow but the most time is taken up after the user login stage. I'm not sure which processes / applictions can be safely deleted from the start up register, but I have attempted to remove windows messenger and it always gets put back. Also the windows explorer always kicks off displaying the system32 window. Other computers I have used do not display this so its obviously not essential. Even if I close the window when it appears the login routine seems to stall for a while and the window reappears. It seems odd to me that the user login should take longer than the windows start up routine?
I'm running a pentium 3 so I don't expect real flash performance but I should be doing better than I am.
I'm running a pentium 3 so I don't expect real flash performance but I should be doing better than I am.
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Pat Kelly
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Rick Jolley
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OK. You should get a copy of easy-cleaner from www.toniarts.com (free) and use it to delete a bunch of crap from your start up list. Delete everything you didn't order. Then you should get a copy of ad-aware (free) and a copy of the microsoft anti-spyware beta, and run them regularly to keep your machine pretty clean. You can spend money to do better if you want.
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Rick Jolley
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Rick Jolley
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Dekley S10 3/3, Session400
http://belizenorth.com
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Jack Stoner
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I don't recommend automatic "system repair" or "registry repair/cleaner" programs. They can cause more harm than they fix. I've been on several customer service calls because they used one of these types of programs (System Mechanic is one) and it deleted items that were legitimate and used.
You can manually remove items from the startup. Click Start then Click Run. Enter msconfig and then click OK. The panel will come up and you can click on the Startup and see what is listed. You have to be careful as some items in the startup are needed.
What is in the "Sys Tray" (lower right of the task bar) can have a major affect on startup. Many programs will install a "quick start" or "Quick Lanuch" icon (and startup program). A good majority of these are really not needed. As with the Startup, there are some that are needed, e.g. antivirus, firewall. Items that are not normally (usually) needed are any IM (Instant Messenger) type program (If you want to use one, just start it when you want to use it, not at startup), the quicklaunch for programs such as Adobe Acrobat reader, Media Players, MS Office, etc.
You didn't mention what Operating system you have. If you have something other than Windows XP (e.g. Win98 or Win ME) you should have more than 75% free "System Resources" - at Windows startup (check it immediately after starting Windows).
If you have Windows XP, you need bare minimum of 256Mb of memory and even that is really inadequate - more is better. Windows XP manages memory better but it is a memory hog. With an older P3 machine, unless you have upgraded memory that could be a major factor on how well or fast it starts up and runs, although a P3 machine can be very slow to startup. I have an old Compaq Presario that is a 350Mhz P3 (which is at the low end of the Windows XP minimum CPU requirements) with 384Mb of memory (max it will take) and it is s l o w to start or load programs. I dont' use it very much - sometimes as a "test" machine or my wife will use it for wordprocessing (works good for that).
You can manually remove items from the startup. Click Start then Click Run. Enter msconfig and then click OK. The panel will come up and you can click on the Startup and see what is listed. You have to be careful as some items in the startup are needed.
What is in the "Sys Tray" (lower right of the task bar) can have a major affect on startup. Many programs will install a "quick start" or "Quick Lanuch" icon (and startup program). A good majority of these are really not needed. As with the Startup, there are some that are needed, e.g. antivirus, firewall. Items that are not normally (usually) needed are any IM (Instant Messenger) type program (If you want to use one, just start it when you want to use it, not at startup), the quicklaunch for programs such as Adobe Acrobat reader, Media Players, MS Office, etc.
You didn't mention what Operating system you have. If you have something other than Windows XP (e.g. Win98 or Win ME) you should have more than 75% free "System Resources" - at Windows startup (check it immediately after starting Windows).
If you have Windows XP, you need bare minimum of 256Mb of memory and even that is really inadequate - more is better. Windows XP manages memory better but it is a memory hog. With an older P3 machine, unless you have upgraded memory that could be a major factor on how well or fast it starts up and runs, although a P3 machine can be very slow to startup. I have an old Compaq Presario that is a 350Mhz P3 (which is at the low end of the Windows XP minimum CPU requirements) with 384Mb of memory (max it will take) and it is s l o w to start or load programs. I dont' use it very much - sometimes as a "test" machine or my wife will use it for wordprocessing (works good for that).
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Jack Stoner
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Here is a link with some info on system 32 starting up. It may or may not apply in your case.
http://www.djdenham.com/New%20user%20questions.htm#System32
http://www.djdenham.com/New%20user%20questions.htm#System32
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Pat Kelly
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Jack and Rick. Thanks for the responses. I'll get through all these suggestion and hopefully get an improvement. The bother is that Microsoft messenger keeps putting itself back on the start up list. I do have anti-spyware beta and run XP with 256 Mb. Any thoughts on explorer opening in the System32 window and reopening if closed during the login routine?
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ray qualls
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Pat, I'm not a computer whiz and can barely get by on my own but I know that messenger is a part of your Outlook Express. I think thats why it keeps reloading every time. If I'm wrong, forgive me. Ray
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Ray Qualls
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Jack Stoner
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This should take care of the windows messenger.
http://www.itc.virginia.edu/desktop/docs/messagepopup/
http://www.itc.virginia.edu/desktop/docs/messagepopup/