busted sho-bud saddle HELP

Justin Douglas · Post by **Justin Douglas** » 15 Jul 2003 6:00 am

hi all,
i just bought a fine sho-bud professional D-10 from mr. denny turner (who, by the way, gives the kind of amazing service you never thought existed). in changing the strings, i managed to pop off a little peg in the bridge that the string ball hooks on to. the metal is clean broke and thus that string cannot be strung. how do i fix this?
thanks.

Ed Naylor · Post by **Ed Naylor** » 15 Jul 2003 6:48 am

That is a common problem with that changer part. I have some in stock. In the meantime a possible temporary solution would be ,drill a 1/16 hole and insert a 1/16 roll pin. This possibly could done without removing the finger. Ed Naylor Steel Guitar Works.

Justin Douglas · Post by **Justin Douglas** » 16 Jul 2003 8:39 am

ed-

thanks for the info, but i can't get your site to load... says i'm unauthorized.
take care.

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Ricky Davis · Post by **Ricky Davis** » 16 Jul 2003 9:49 am

Justin; Did the pin break off flush?? So you can't insert another pin?? If you have the pin and there is room for it to go into the hole....than...use JB Weld...and let sit overnight...and will be stronger than ever(I've done this many many Times)...
Otherwise....you'll have to drill that small hole out; to get the remaining pin out....and than use that size drill stock steel pin...and insert with JB weld....or drill you a new hole and new pin...
Or have Duane Marrs send you a exact replacement Finger for your ShoBud...as he has the old fingers or new...which ever you have....and then you have to take the rods out ..than just push the axle out ..and replace the finger....
Good luck..and if you need further assistance; don't hesitate to shoot me an E-mail sshawaiian@aol.com

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Ed Naylor · Post by **Ed Naylor** » 16 Jul 2003 10:14 am

Justin- I have been having web site problems. I am in and out , but you may call me at 1-800-749-3363. Send your address and I will send you a finger.Ed

Justin Douglas · Post by **Justin Douglas** » 16 Jul 2003 12:43 pm

thanks for all the replys,
yes, it broke flush, so there's a little bit still in there.
first time for everything!

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www.studiopiccolo.com

Bill Moore · Post by **Bill Moore** » 16 Jul 2003 1:18 pm

About breaking those pins; do they usually break off because the ball end was not pressed tightly against the finger before the string was raised to pitch? It seems that doing that would put much more stress on the pin, causing it to break. I haven't broken any, but I try to be very careful about getting the ball end tight to the finger before tuning up all the way.

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Bill Ford · Post by **Bill Ford** » 16 Jul 2003 2:53 pm

Bill,
I think it is/was a bad pin to begin with,I played a D12 MSA for many years with a ball/string end under the string on the G#/A,it gave less of an angle and rarely broke a string.(I put the empty ball on the peg first then put the new string on top at the end of the peg)

Bill

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Justin Douglas · Post by **Justin Douglas** » 17 Jul 2003 9:03 am

when mine broke, i was stretching the new string out, and i stretched it a little too close to the bridge i guess cause it snapped right off. thought i was being real careful, but i guess not careful enough.

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Russ Wever · Post by **Russ Wever** » 18 Jul 2003 12:00 am

In most cases of string-pins breaking, it is because the ball-end of the string was not flush with the changer-finger. This condition causes a bending force to be applied to the pin, as opposed to a shearing-force. The type of pin used, whether roll-pin or drill-rod, is not meant to withstand great bendinging forces. When replacing the pin it is well to cut it to a length such that only enough length protrudes from the changer-finger to go through the strings ball-end; this way, if the strings ball-end is inadvertently placed on the end of the pin rather than flush to the changer-finger, bending and/or breakage is less likely than if the pin is longer.
~ Russ

Russ Wever · Post by **Russ Wever** » 18 Jul 2003 12:09 am

In an 'emergency situation' with Emmons push-pull guitars when there is not time for a proper repair/replacement before it has to be played, it is possible to 'thread' a new string through one of the unoccupied raise-rod hook holes in the changer and bring the string upward along the changer-finger, over the radius and to it's tuning key.
~ Russ