Another ShoBud Finished

Ricky Davis · Post by **Ricky Davis** » 16 Jan 2003 10:53 am

Well I just finished up tweeking and adjusting and added good parts to this very Rare Wood Neck Wraparound ShoBud Pro 1.
Cleaned and Polished and fixed the wiring....and she plays and sounds as good as anything out there....and she's from the Late 60's.

Any Questions????ha..
Ricky

Johnny Cox · Post by **Johnny Cox** » 16 Jan 2003 11:18 am

Ricky, that is a beauty. That guitar would not even be called a Pro 1. In those days there were no distinction by numbers. There were permanents, fingertips, crossovers (or Baldwin models)and professionals. There were either single or double neck. Just a little trivia. Is that your guitar and is it for sale.

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Joerg Hennig · Post by **Joerg Hennig** » 16 Jan 2003 11:23 am

Great job, Ricky. That finish is just too beautiful... Of course I´m curious: Is that a rack-and-barrel? The wraparound neck suggests it was built around the same time as the Crossovers.

Regards, Joe

Allan Thompson · Post by **Allan Thompson** » 16 Jan 2003 12:57 pm

Beautiful guitar Ricky, you did a great job.
Regards,
Allan.

Ricky Davis · Post by **Ricky Davis** » 16 Jan 2003 1:24 pm

Thanks guys that means alot.
Johnny your right of course...and thanks for the trivia....it "Is" a single neck Shobud; and a guy in Florida sent it to me to work on and do this to it for him...so it's his guitar.
Joe; yes it is from the late '60s during that crossover era....and I think yours is a '68 right?? I believe this one to be a '67 ShoBud.
It sure sounds and plays awesome now...but the old ShoBud pickup is a little too microphonic....I'm gunna need to plop a Bill Lawrence in the baby so you don't hear that Rack and Barrel system working at it's best...ha......yes Rack and Barrel....I love it.
Ricky

Doug Seymour · Post by **Doug Seymour** » 16 Jan 2003 3:07 pm

I love the looks of that guitar! Did you refinish it?? Can't beat natural wood!

Bill Ford · Post by **Bill Ford** » 16 Jan 2003 4:47 pm

Ricky,
There is no way to outshine the look of natural wood...Be proud of the job you did on this one.

Bill

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Kenny Davis · Post by **Kenny Davis** » 16 Jan 2003 9:13 pm

Great job, My Bro!!!

Ricky Davis · Post by **Ricky Davis** » 17 Jan 2003 1:00 am

No I did not refinish this ShoBud...
Over the years....say 35 or so..ha.. the oringinal "Finish" will dry and wear.
With special cleaning and Waxing you can bring out that finish....than you are ready to polish....and from that proceedure...you get a near new look and you will never see the cracks in the finish...if the rest of it around it is "Shiney"...ah...ha.
Thanks guys for the thumbs up...and I'm having fun doing this to these great old guitars....and the best part is they even play better than they look....yeee haaaa.
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Jerry Hayes R.I.P. · Post by **Jerry Hayes R.I.P.** » 17 Jan 2003 4:23 am

Hey Ricky,
Did all the old 'buds from that era come with the pedals so far towards the center or was that a special order? Most of them I've seen (although not that old) have the pedals closer to the left front leg. Also, I see the tone and volume knobs on the back but what does that switch do? Thanks, JH

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Roy Thomson · Post by **Roy Thomson** » 17 Jan 2003 4:48 am

Beautifull!!
Nice job Ricky and thanks for sharing.

Roy

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Herb Steiner · Post by **Herb Steiner** » 17 Jan 2003 7:42 am

Jerry
The switch is probably a coil tap switch.

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Ricky Davis · Post by **Ricky Davis** » 17 Jan 2003 10:33 am

Hi Jerry; yes Brother Herb is correct...as the switch is a coil tap......and knob on left is a Tone and knob on right is Volume.
The pedals are more towards the middle as that was common for the very early Single neck shobuds.....even Lloyd Greens pedals on the Original LDG are more towards the middle.....but not as much as these on this one.
Ricky

chas smith R.I.P. · Post by **chas smith R.I.P.** » 17 Jan 2003 11:29 am

WOW!!!

Joerg Hennig · Post by **Joerg Hennig** » 17 Jan 2003 12:03 pm

No Ricky mine must be from around ´76 but I know I´ll have to get an older one sooner or later...
Joe

Rex Thomas · Post by **Rex Thomas** » 17 Jan 2003 4:40 pm

My 1st steel was that same model, minus the extra knees & GORGEOUS finish.

Roger Crawford · Post by **Roger Crawford** » 17 Jan 2003 7:17 pm

If it sounds good now, just wait til the strings go on!

Ricky Davis · Post by **Ricky Davis** » 18 Jan 2003 12:53 am

Sorry Joe; I was thinkin' of something else...but yes get you a old one...you'll never go back.
Good one Roger

.....but of course I did all the work and adjusting with strings on it...and took the strings off awaiting a pickup that I'm putting in there....that's why there are no strings on it at this point...duhh....
Ricky

Chris DeBarge · Post by **Chris DeBarge** » 20 Jan 2003 9:48 am

Ricky, you can get that old pickup rewaxed(if it in fact has wax on the coils). That can take care of a lot of the microphonics.

Beautiful guitar, and I bet the sound'll raise a few eyebrows too!

Ricky Davis · Post by **Ricky Davis** » 20 Jan 2003 10:02 am

WEll the great/kind Jerry Wallace is gunna help this OLD ShoBud Pickup out...I'm sending it off to him tomorrow.
I will have a report On Jerry's work when it's all in and fired up.....
Thank you Jerry Wallace.
Ricky

Steve Spitz · Post by **Steve Spitz** » 20 Jan 2003 5:00 pm

Ricky: Any chance you could elaborate on the clean, wax , and polish details? I have a Pro ll, I wish it looked that good!! Please let us know how Jerry`s pick-ups work out. I`m real curious. Best of luck, Steve

Tyler Macy · Post by **Tyler Macy** » 20 Jan 2003 11:52 pm

Ricky, since you are the resident Sho-bud expert 'round here, I thought I'd offer up my baby for your approval.

What do you think? She was rebuilt mostly by Doug Jones, with a little of my help (I was a newbie at the time. Come to think of it, I still am.)

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Ricky Davis · Post by **Ricky Davis** » 21 Jan 2003 2:39 am

Sure Steve>
Ok for the wood....first use soapy water and with a rag; clean and then wipe with a wet rag...than let dry naturally.
Then get the polishing wax that is made for wood....and rub it on good and let dry....than wipe off with clean rag.
....then get regular guitar polish(I use ernie ball) and wipe on and let dry and then wipe off......than use pledge for your final polish and always make sure everything gets rubbed/wiped on and dry and wipe off....

Tyler that wood and finish looks great; but what the heck are those metal things under the fret boards...ha

From Lloyd Green.
...a little more history on the ShoBud for the questions of pedal placement...and more.

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The Sho-Bud is absolutely stunning. Interestingly, none of my 4 ever was so beautiful. I'm glad Johnny Cox explained the absence of numerical assignation of that eras Sho-Buds. That's a common misconception. It's a small, but historically important piece of information. Another piece of the puzzle is this. When the first LDG was being built David Jackson, Shot and I discussed all of the things I felt would be an asset to this new type steel. The color green was their idea; an allusion to my name, which I now think was rather juvenile. While a special color could be ordered on any LDG, I think the natural stains which accentuate the indigenous designs of the wood are more elegant than "green". But, the idea to space the pedals a little further to the right from hard left was my mine, for two reasons; first, I always felt more comfortable with them closer to the center of my body and could reach them easier, and secondly I thought it presented a more esthetically balanced look since all the other normal pedals were absent. They actually resisted this idea initially, feeling the guitar would look somewhat awkward if the pedals (left to right) were not started at the far left. We compromised, between their view and the more extreme and earlier single neck you are showing. And I was correct; it was/is more comfortable and makes more sense to position them in a more centered fashion if there isn't competition for floor space.

Lloyd Green
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Guest · Post by **Guest** » 21 Jan 2003 5:55 am

What a great comment from Lloyd. There's nothing like getting the true facts first-hand.

Tyler Macy · Post by **Tyler Macy** » 21 Jan 2003 8:25 am

What do you got against metal necks!!

This is my first steel and I knew nothing about nothing and it was only $875, so it worked for me. Maybe I'll get a pro II next so I can be a well rounded human being.

BTW, Ricky or anyone, how can I tell when my shobud was made? I honestly have no idea. All I know is that it's a newer one because it has the narrow pedals.

The only numbers on it are 12983 - does this mean it was born on Dec 9, 1983?

Also 1 - A - 3 is stamped into the end plate (inside) What does that mean?

Tyler