Ubuntu users

Steve Norman · Post by **Steve Norman** » 4 Dec 2009 8:10 pm

sorry bad post on my part, try these, we can try and figure out what ubuntu thinks your cd drives are named. If now we got some digin to do.

eject /dev/cdrom0

eject /dev/cdrom1

also put a cd in, wait about 5 seconds and in a terminal type

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dmesg | tail

and post the output.

just dopy and paste that, the verticle line is not an i or L but is shift \

David Wright · Post by **David Wright** » 5 Dec 2009 4:18 am

david@david-desktop:~$ eject /dev/cdrom0
eject: unable to find or open device for: `/dev/cdrom0'
david@david-desktop:~$ eject /dev/cdrom1
eject: unable to find or open device for: `/dev/cdrom1'
david@david-desktop:~$ dmesg | tail
[ 713.093149] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr1
[ 713.095767] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr1
[ 713.095935] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr1
[ 713.099993] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr1
[ 713.127513] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr1
[ 713.127600] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr1
[ 713.127702] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr1
[ 713.130862] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr1
[ 713.130998] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr1
[ 713.131149] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr1
david@david-desktop:~$

David Wright · Post by **David Wright** » 5 Dec 2009 4:43 am

when I boot up I get this

and when dmesg code is put in I get this
david@david-desktop:~$ dmesg | tail
[ 91.205869] usb 1-5: usbfs: interface 1 claimed by usblp while 'usb' sets config #1
[ 92.337947] CPU0 attaching NULL sched-domain.
[ 92.337955] CPU1 attaching NULL sched-domain.
[ 92.356087] CPU0 attaching sched-domain:
[ 92.356093] domain 0: span 0-1 level CPU
[ 92.356098] groups: 0 1
[ 92.356107] CPU1 attaching sched-domain:
[ 92.356116] domain 0: span 0-1 level CPU
[ 92.356119] groups: 1 0
[ 101.604012] eth0: no IPv6 routers present
david@david-desktop:~$

It did play a cd but I re boot and now nothing...

one last time trying everything you said to do

david@david-desktop:~$ eject /dev/cdrom0
eject: unable to find or open device for: `/dev/cdrom0'
david@david-desktop:~$ eject /dev/cdrom1
eject: unable to find or open device for: `/dev/cdrom1'
david@david-desktop:~$ dmesg | tail
[ 91.205869] usb 1-5: usbfs: interface 1 claimed by usblp while 'usb' sets config #1
[ 92.337947] CPU0 attaching NULL sched-domain.
[ 92.337955] CPU1 attaching NULL sched-domain.
[ 92.356087] CPU0 attaching sched-domain:
[ 92.356093] domain 0: span 0-1 level CPU
[ 92.356098] groups: 0 1
[ 92.356107] CPU1 attaching sched-domain:
[ 92.356116] domain 0: span 0-1 level CPU
[ 92.356119] groups: 1 0
[ 101.604012] eth0: no IPv6 routers present
david@david-desktop:~$

Wiz Feinberg · Post by **Wiz Feinberg** » 5 Dec 2009 8:17 am

If the BIOS doesn't detect your optical disks the OS won't either. Something is wrong with either the drive units, the cables connecting them, or the chipset controlling them.

Check all cables to the drives, on both ends. Loose cables happen.

Try replacing a CD drive with a known-good unit from another machine, or buy a new CD/DVD and install it in place of one that is not detected. Optical drives fail from time to time.

If a new drive is not detected and loose cables were not the problem and the BIOS still doesn't see the drives, the chipset controlling them has died. A motherboard replacement is in order. Or, you could try to find a plug-in PCI IDE Controller (P-ATA) card that will go into an available PCI slot on your motherboard. They are usually available from computer parts stores that have been around for a decade or longer.

Make sure that one drive is jumpered as Master and the other as Slave, or else set both to CS, if on the same dual cable.

David Wright · Post by **David Wright** » 5 Dec 2009 10:11 am

Wis
I know the cd roms are good, no loose cables, it's got to be something is not recognizing them, one worked this morning, now not.. this is a spare puter, and don't like Microsoft!.. . i use Mac for my main computer...

Wiz Feinberg · Post by **Wiz Feinberg** » 5 Dec 2009 3:31 pm

David Wright wrote:Wis
I know the cd roms are good, no loose cables, it's got to be something is not recognizing them, one worked this morning, now not.

I agree. From your screen shot of the BIOS it is clear that the BIOS itself does not detect these drives anymore. Since you believe that the cable and drives themselves are good, although you haven't mentioned if the jumpers are set as I mentioned, all that is left is that the IDE Controller chipset has failed, or is failing intermittently. Check your motherboard for leaking electrolytic capacitors. These are a frequent cause of weird behavior on some motherboards.

John Cipriano · Post by **John Cipriano** » 5 Dec 2009 8:58 pm

Try unhooking the primary slave. My guess is that's the one called sr1 in linux. Of course, tail just prints the bottom of the file so there could be lines about sr0 in there as well.

To reiterate, there's no point spending time in linux on this until your drives are connected and working in a manner where the BIOS detects them. I suspect that once that happens linux won't have a problem mounting CDs automatically and you won't have to do anything further on that end.

Steve Norman · Post by **Steve Norman** » 6 Dec 2009 2:20 am

It seems you had no problems in the last 3 installs of linux with your opticals until now. Try rebooting with the ubuntu disk in your cd drive and see what happens running with the live cd. If you boot into the live cd your bios sees them. If that happens post FROM THE LIVE CD

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sudo lshw

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sudo fstab

I dont know why your bios isnt seeing opticals all of a sudden

Steve Norman · Post by **Steve Norman** » 6 Dec 2009 11:21 pm

Hey Wiz is there a possibility the problem is with bios and not the electronics? I have heard some bad stories about dells and bios.

David Wright · Post by **David Wright** » 9 Dec 2009 4:32 am

well, out of no where, all is working,

..played cd, dvd, copied music, and a dvd..... I did notice, when booting up, sometimes it doesn't see the cd roms... re boot and it does... I haven't tryed booting from the disk, but I do remember now, there was some things while installing it I had to skip, I thinks it said "bad sector"
I have done all the updates... thats where I'm at now

Steve Norman · Post by **Steve Norman** » 9 Dec 2009 2:27 pm

I would power down and re-insert all the connectors to the optical drives and check for a leaky cap like Wiz said, a bios problem has nothing to do with your linux install, its either a hardware problem or a bios problem.

A bad capacitor on the motherboard would explain a lot about the inconsistencies you have been experiencing.

David Wright · Post by **David Wright** » 9 Dec 2009 2:31 pm

Ok I will do that... Let you know ..Thanks for all this Help Steve...

Steve Norman · Post by **Steve Norman** » 9 Dec 2009 3:03 pm

No problem! I just feel bad that we couldnt get your box up running right. Good job sticking with it, there really is no other way to learn linux.

David Wright · Post by **David Wright** » 11 Dec 2009 3:32 am

Steve,
I did all you said to do plus cleaned the inside, all seems to be working fine..even put some music one it, connected a little I pod and downloaded some music to the I Pod...it's a bit different getting all this done, which is the best player, user friendly to have?..

Now... Printer... can't get it going, it sees it, but won't do anything, its a Dell all in one 964..any suggestions??.

Steve Norman · Post by **Steve Norman** » 11 Dec 2009 3:56 am

The best mp3 players for linux are the sansa clips. You can set them to act as a memory storage an then you can drag and drop to and from them. The also play ogg in addition to mp3 and wav.

For your printer you have to do

1.

Obtain the model name of your printer.
2.

Ensure the printer is turned on.
3.

Choose System → Administration → Printing
4.

Click New Printer.
5.

Your printer should be automatically detected. If so, simply click Forward and then Apply.
6.

Finally, you can enter in a description and location for your printer.

In the past that printer has not worked with linux. You can get an hp all in one pretty cheap at newegg.com hp is the best choice for printers.

looks like it still doesnt:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1220113

Bad News:
I do believe you have found the combo of equipment that ubuntu hates most.

Good news:

this is rare these days, and if you get your hands on a new computer you will have lots of experience with linux installs and troubleshooting!

I think your sound card ( I have the same one) and your printer are the least linux friendly one out there. Do you still get that bios error? Hopefully it was just loose cables.

David Wright · Post by **David Wright** » 11 Dec 2009 4:12 am

Morning,
I pretty much did all what you said about the printer, so a new one might be the answer..I meant the player in the computer...
this computer is just a spare I have, I hate Microsoft!.. so just want something on it to play with, I am a MAC user..I Mac.24 inch screen..))) Love it, I see Dell is shipping new lab tops with Linux on them now, is it a different version than the one I'm trying to learn??? one would think that Dell wouldn't ship these and the buyer have a lot of B S trying to get programs to work...

well it sees the printer...but can't find the right drivers I guess..

Steve Norman · Post by **Steve Norman** » 11 Dec 2009 5:04 am

My favorite player is vlc. I dont like software that does a bunch of crap for me, I like to control every aspect I can, which is what I love about linux. I think the majority of ubuntu users like amarock and rhtyhmbox.

The dell laptops ship with a version of ubuntu called netbook remix, which is a chopped version. Its basically the same but with smaller screen apps. I think acer and asus are a little more linux friendly laptop wise (cheap on newegg as well). they ship with windows on them, but thats an easy bug to get rid off.

On newer computers now most people just boot and go, not much to do after and install but load all the restricted stuff and configure a few things. People usually buy the preloaded with linux comps because they save a couple hundred not having the windows license.

A lot of these unix based commands will work on mac osx, as it is based on unix as well. A lot of mac users are going to the command line for config stuff.

Just so you know, ubuntu, crunchbang, mint, and a few others are built on a powerhouse distro called debian. Most of the commands we have been using are debian based. Debian is a wonderful os but it can be a bear to configure.

Since your just messing around on that comp, you may want to look at mint.

http://www.linuxmint.com/download.php

Mint uses the same commands as ubuntu, but they are not as convoluted. Try and load it so that you have both ubuntu and mint on the same comp. Having multiple operating systems on one computer is one of linux's strong points.

BTW Thank god that wasnt your primary computer. I was starting to panic that I was gonna get you fired or something.

David Wright · Post by **David Wright** » 11 Dec 2009 5:37 am

so which link do I sse to download Mint?

Fired??? ummm, might give you some bad info on playing steel

... other than that , your job as Adviser is safe...

David Wright · Post by **David Wright** » 19 Dec 2009 4:54 am

Steve
I'm trying to copy a DVD, got it to the computer, but having problem burning it to DVD,,,, ant ideas..

Steve Norman · Post by **Steve Norman** » 19 Dec 2009 9:01 am

I use k3b to burn, the other programs act to buggy for me. try k3b.

David Wright · Post by **David Wright** » 7 Jan 2010 11:53 am

Calling Steve
tell me how to fix this???

Earnest Bovine · Post by **Earnest Bovine** » 7 Jan 2010 12:19 pm

David Wright wrote:how to fix this???

How about delete it and try again?

David Wright · Post by **David Wright** » 7 Jan 2010 12:25 pm

well can't find the SOB

Steve Norman · Post by **Steve Norman** » 7 Jan 2010 10:51 pm

what were you trying to do?

looks like an upgrade failure to me,

try this first

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sudo apt-get -f install

David Wright · Post by **David Wright** » 8 Jan 2010 4:08 am

your right
heres the read out
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Correcting dependencies... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
python-crypto empathy-doc python-desktopcouch-records telepathy-salut
aisleriot gtali desktopcouch erlang-inets glchess erlang-syntax-tools
gnobots2 gnome-mahjongg libpst4 libsctp1 erlang-mnesia same-gnome
libcouchdb-glib-1.0-1 libempathy-gtk28 python-telepathy gnibbles
libloudmouth1-0 couchdb-bin python-couchdb gnome-games-common python-avahi
telepathy-haze erlang-xmerl libcurl3 gnotski gnometris libclutter-1.0-0
iagno glines libjson-glib-1.0-0 libclutter-gtk-0.10-0 gnome-sudoku
telepathy-gabble lksctp-tools erlang-crypto gnect libempathy-gtk-common
erlang-ssl telepathy-butterfly python-desktopcouch python-papyon
erlang-runtime-tools gnome-blackjack erlang-base erlang-public-key gnomine
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
The following extra packages will be installed:
linux-image-2.6.31-17-generic
Suggested packages:
fdutils linux-doc-2.6.31 linux-source-2.6.31
The following NEW packages will be installed:
linux-image-2.6.31-17-generic
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
2 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B/28.8MB of archives.
After this operation, 90.2MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
(Reading database ... 162818 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking linux-image-2.6.31-17-generic (from .../linux-image-2.6.31-17-generic_2.6.31-17.54_i386.deb) ...
Done.
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.31-17-generic_2.6.31-17.54_i386.deb (--unpack):
corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Running postrm hook script /sbin/update-grub.
Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub
Searching for default file ... found: /boot/grub/default
Testing for an existing GRUB menu.lst file ... found: /boot/grub/menu.lst
Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ...
Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-16-generic
Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-15-generic
Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28-11-generic
Found kernel: /boot/memtest86+.bin
Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ... done

Errors were encountered while processing:
/var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.31-17-generic_2.6.31-17.54_i386.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
david@david-desktop:~$