Factory built steels,how many?

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 12 Jul 2001 8:50 pm

SOOOOOOOOO! How many factory built steel guitars are there? Five, Right?
Bobbe

Jim Bob Sedgwick · Post by **Jim Bob Sedgwick** » 13 Jul 2001 11:05 pm

Being just a dummy, it's my opinion that "Acceptable tone" can come from either a factory, or a garage.

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 16 Jul 2001 6:28 pm

Bob, were not talking tone here,if we were talking tone this post would NEVER end! Remember, Politics,religon,tone! Never to be discused with friends. (kidding,naturally)
Bobbe

bob drawbaugh · Post by **bob drawbaugh** » 17 Jul 2001 12:32 pm

I don't think there are any true steel guitar factorys. No, not even five. I would consider them to be steel guitar shops. With that said lets remember that Apple conputers were started in a garage by two students, so was HP computers, so was servicemaster,to name a few. We all know wewre these compants have gone. They are still here supporting there products. So if you are building guitars out of the trunk of your car and it's a good product and people are buying it. I say keep building it and one day you may be the Apple computer of the steel guitar world, and have the first steel guitar factory.

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 17 Jul 2001 10:23 pm

Very intresting Bob,Maybe you have a point,There are no steel guitar factorys,and compared to auto,guitar,TV,computer and furniture factorys, youv'e got to be correct.However , what about the steel "factorys" that are paying for all the things that define them as being a business? Business phones cost more than "home" phones,Business locations cost more than residential realestate.I'spose it's OK not to pay any business taxes if you can get away with it,they sure dont make the guitar sound any better, or thats what most of you are saying,Right? Remember,the guitar isn't any less expensive if it's a home made one. It may not be any worse either, who knows or really cares,I just asked the question in the first place to do a human nature test check on the basic honesty of the human race and attitude toward goverment controls on businesses. Boy, I've found out a lot.Some said that nothing could be learned from this post,sorry for those folks.If they can't learn from this,they can't learn from anything and proved it with that
statment. Lets have fun,thats what steel guitars are really for,Right?
Is this a great forum or what!
The Doctor is in!

bob drawbaugh · Post by **bob drawbaugh** » 18 Jul 2001 1:43 pm

Bobbe, you are right this is a great fourm. Just because some steel guitar shops pay business taxes and pay for a business phone does not make them a factory. It makes them a business.

The American Heritage Dictionary defines a factory as a building or group of buildings were goods are manufactured. By that defination every stee guitar builder has a factory.

Are children considered goods. If so I have a child factory. Ya buddy.

The teacher is in.

MSA U12 twice.

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 18 Jul 2001 1:48 pm

I love it Bob! Good answer!
Bobbe

Gary Lee Gimble · Post by **Gary Lee Gimble** » 18 Jul 2001 2:45 pm

FWIW, there are many advantages, tax wise, in running a business/factory out of your home. A possible disadvantage to a non-factory establishment (in your home deal) is the absence of that big desk where one's arm can quickly clear the desktop for a little afternoon break. Doing that at work (at the factory) can only make you liable for a future harassment suit and higher workers comp fees especially when the victim falls of the desk and breaks a finger nail!

Gary Lee

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 18 Jul 2001 7:18 pm

Gary Gimbel,This is funny!And your correct.I really must agree.
Bobbe

Gary Lee Gimble · Post by **Gary Lee Gimble** » 19 Jul 2001 2:39 am

Its Gimble, not Gimbel! Big difference you know!
I forgive you this time.

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 20 Jul 2001 10:05 am

Good lord , and you told me that on the phone too! Sorry.
Bhuobi Cemhour

Bhuobi Cemhour · Post by **Bhuobi Cemhour** » 20 Jul 2001 3:09 pm

Watch it, Bobbe!

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 27 Jul 2001 7:57 pm

Huh? OK, I will,
Six Real factorys, total. Count em'

Andy Alford · Post by **Andy Alford** » 29 Sep 2002 4:43 am

How many workers are building the guitars in the factories?Are they really small operations?

Don Walters · Post by **Don Walters** » 29 Sep 2002 6:57 am

<SMALL>I don't know why some people are getting their bowels in an uproar</SMALL>

Considering the age of a lot of the people on here, that may not be such a bad thing.

Chip Fossa · Post by **Chip Fossa** » 29 Sep 2002 7:28 am

Aren't we just discussing semantics here?
I don't see the point, whether or not a pedal steel is made in a "factory" or someone's backyard garage/outbuildings or
in their basement.

Maybe the point is, 'how soon can the instrument be completed and delivered'?

As long as the quality and craftsmanship, playability etc. is there [and Lord knows it is], then that's all I really care about.

Gere Mullican · Post by **Gere Mullican** » 29 Sep 2002 7:29 am

Hi folks. I am new here and this is my first reply. I was just wondering if anyone kows if the Marlen is going to be continued since we lost Leonard. That's what I played until somebody ripped it off. Thanks

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 29 Sep 2002 9:32 am

Well...here I go again. I'm going to skip Webster's first definition under the word "factory", 'cause it has more to do with a structure or building than anything else.

HOWEVER, the second entry under "factory" is very enlightening, even to an old bookworm/geezer like me! It says...

<SMALL>...any place producing a uniform product, without concern for individuality...</SMALL>

Sooooo...we can say (or rather I can say) that if you make a "standard model" steel...or anything else, buddy, you got a factory! Now if everyone you build is different, and if everyone you build is customized, and you never build one without an "order", unless it's for yourself...then I guess it's safe to say you don't have a "factory".

Guess what, I just solved the dilemma we were having!

Thusly, I can say with some confidence that 99.99% of all steels that have ever been built (or will be built) were built in a "factory"!

I'm glad I could help!

Lee Baucum · Post by **Lee Baucum** » 29 Sep 2002 9:37 am

And you guys do realize this thread is from last year, do you not?

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Lee, from South Texas

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 29 Sep 2002 3:18 pm

Yeah...I had to think about my last response before I gave it!

Joe Miraglia · Post by **Joe Miraglia** » 29 Sep 2002 4:22 pm

If I had posted this topic and asked the same question, there may have been three or four responses. Bobbie posts it, there have been 95 responses. Being famous with notibility says it all. I'm just a nobody

Joe

Kenny Foy · Post by **Kenny Foy** » 29 Sep 2002 4:54 pm

So Boobe, Out of curosity how many Guitars do these factories build in a year.Approximately, and if anyone has at least a good guess or know factually it would be you that would know. Now you got me to thinkin about numbers.

Wayne Cox · Post by **Wayne Cox** » 29 Sep 2002 6:20 pm

Bobbe, are you on steroids?

W.C.

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 30 Sep 2002 6:00 pm

Joe M. , the reason I get 95 responses and you would get 4 is because I know a lot more about the subject than you do. Right? What do I do for a career? What do you do for a career?
I don't think being famous has anything to do with it. I'm not sure I'm famous anyway.I met a guy two years ago from Pago Pago that wasn't sure if he knew me or not. (his wife did though!) How famous do YOU think I am?
I don't think I'm very famous. Maybe I am in Panama. I did a show there once in 1948 with my uncle Doug in the high school. We twerld ropes (larietts) , he played steel guitar with the Fox Hunters and did comedy. I just did the "Cowboy stuff". I lost in a tractor driving contest in Panama once also. I was only 6 years old,

(this response was all in fun Joe, don't get your Panama ire up)

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 30 Sep 2002 6:04 pm

By the way Jhoe merighlougha, "Bobbe" isn't that hard to spell. Just leave out one letter, the "i".
(I don't really care how you spell it Joe,just spell it as often as you can!)
Your buddy :
Bhoube