Flattop acoustics conversion?
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Rick Rienks
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Flattop acoustics conversion?
As I aged I developed problems with my hands and decided I might get back into playing if I switched to slide. Finding a great deal on a ‘61 Supro cinched the deal. I began working my way to functionality.
Recently I met a 91 year old fellow who voiced a familiar complaint - his hands. I suggested we try to convert his acoustic from fretted to slide.
Once that was completed I tuned it to standard guitar tuning saying we might need some assistance in selecting a tuning and string gauges.
Thus I turn to you all for ideas and suggestions moving forward. The string height seems workable. I wonder about open E tuning as regards gauges/string pull. Thanks for any information you may offer.
Recently I met a 91 year old fellow who voiced a familiar complaint - his hands. I suggested we try to convert his acoustic from fretted to slide.
Once that was completed I tuned it to standard guitar tuning saying we might need some assistance in selecting a tuning and string gauges.
Thus I turn to you all for ideas and suggestions moving forward. The string height seems workable. I wonder about open E tuning as regards gauges/string pull. Thanks for any information you may offer.
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Stanislav Paskalev
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Re: Flattop acoustics conversion?
The typical tuning for converted guitars would be open G low-bass - DGDGBD. There are couple of textbooks, both new and old ones that deal with playing lap in open G or open A - which a tone higher at EAEAC#E. Both of these tunings work with the gauges in a standard guitar string set.
With those conversions it is important to also pay some attention to the bridge. On most acoustic guitars the bridge is slanted and notched on some strings to account for intonation changes when a string is fretted. When playing steel you want a straight bridge that is square with the nut. Otherwise with a straight bar that is parallel with the frets the bass strings may be a little flat.
If you're interested in pulls I'd say switch to a C6 string set for a C6 or similar tuning. Those often contain 4 plain strings and it is easier to bend those. Bending wound strings does not work as good.
With those conversions it is important to also pay some attention to the bridge. On most acoustic guitars the bridge is slanted and notched on some strings to account for intonation changes when a string is fretted. When playing steel you want a straight bridge that is square with the nut. Otherwise with a straight bar that is parallel with the frets the bass strings may be a little flat.
If you're interested in pulls I'd say switch to a C6 string set for a C6 or similar tuning. Those often contain 4 plain strings and it is easier to bend those. Bending wound strings does not work as good.
My current preferred tunings: Bb-C-Db-E-G-A-B-D on 8 strings and C-E-G-A-B-D on 6 strings
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D Schubert
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Re: Flattop acoustics conversion?
A Grover extension nut is the simplest way to convert acoustic guitar for lap style, they've been making them for years. For slide tunings you should be able to use open D or open E or lo-bass G with medium gage strings that are probably on the guitar already.
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Brooks Montgomery
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Re: Flattop acoustics conversion?
also try (low to high) FACFAC it’s a tuning that both Rob Ickes and Jerry Douglas use on occasion.
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